Archives for December 2013

The State Becomes the Anchor

I’ve been practicing NLP for about 5 yrs now and have been unable to find the answer to the question I’m about to ask. Lets say the state I want to anchor is creativity, and the anchor is rubbing my index finger and thumb together like making a ball out of play dough. Sometimes the state will subconciously trigger the physiological response I created to be the anchor, rubbing the two fingers together.
Its almost like the process works forwards and backwards!:?kmelton1841@yahoo.com

The State Becomes the Anchor

Link Posting Etiquette

This is more of a question than a suggestion. I’m just interested in some clarity around the etiquette on this forum around posting links to other websites. Mainly because I want to work within the rules and I cannot seem to find the rules expressed anywhere (There is a very deceiving link on the left hand menu titled ‘Forum Rules’ but it just loads a blank white page for me).

I can appreciate that not posting any links must be okay. And I’m going to guess that blatantly posting topics promoting your own courses or products is a definite no no. But what about the grey area in between?

Is it okay to post links to other websites if they provide useful content for the conversation at hand? Is it okay to post links to your own website?

What creates this curiosity about the rules is that I recently wrote up my experience of a NLP event on my blog. It was relevant to the discussion at hand and I posted a link to it. Is that acceptable, or should I have copy/pasted the content from it onto the forum only?

Over to you Chris 😛

Link Posting Etiquette

Look to the Future and Stop Smoking

Hypnosis is an effective way to stop smoking as most Hypnotherapists will give suggestions that you will not swap one habit for another i.e no weight

Look to the Future and Stop Smoking

Helping a Client That Suffered from Migraines

Hi everyone,

It’s been a while since I have been on here as I have been quite busy with all sorts of things including using a variety of Nlp on myself and leading others into doing the same.

Lots of great experiences including loads of learning points.

Anyways I hope you might be able help. I am seeing a client on weds night that suffers from migraines and is asking me to help. I was wondering if anyone else has had success with a similar client or themselves of course. If you have could you share what worked for you?

With thanks in advance

James

Helping a Client That Suffered from Migraines

Hello Everyone

Hi there people,

Absolute beginner with nlp and love to learn more. I have read a couple of books and watched a few episodes with Richard Bandler and i am intrigued.

Anyway here’s to a big learning curve and hopefully a bit of self improvement.

Cheers

shaun

Hello Everyone

NLP and Changework… Time for an Upgrade? Some Suggestions

Hi,

So I’m sitting there listening to Michael Breen explaining the Meta Model when he gets into an example of how he used the MM to help a guy who had panic attacks on the tube.

Great I think, I love real world examples. After going through some questioning Michael goes on to give the guy some strategies to do next time so he doesn’t have or can avoid to experience any panic attacks anymore. (ie: take water with him, draw pictures,… )

And this is the moment I jump up and say … what a bunch of crap, I can’t believe this ‘master’ NLP trainer is throwing this at people.. :-)

Now before you all go defensive, let me explain soooooo you could relax and open up for maybe new idea …

Michael Breen’s explanation and example on how to utilize the MM/NLP in some short conversation is obviously great and I would suggest everyone who wants to learn more about the MM and wants to really start using it far beyond how most NLPers do these days, to get on the NLP Times platinum audio series where Michael Breen explains it in depth.

Now

I’m only gonna use Michaels example to point something out here:

The suggestions given where there to help the guy avoid having a panic attack, to help him use another strategy instead getting overwhelmed by being on the tube.

Great you think?

I don’t think so, … next time the guy got on the tube with his gf, forgot his scratchbook and water.. and got another panic attack..

Makes sense not? … well that happens when you do ‘change work’ only on a symptom level. You haven’t dealt with the real structure of the problem. And no I’m not talking about submodalities here.

Which is the way NLPers seem to do it over and over again. And you see it in the resources they use, the level they work on, the suggestions they give, the time frame where they ‘see’ the problem, …

I’ve pointed it out tens of times in different threads on different topics…

‘from music in my head, to the hypnotist, secondary gain, to I don’t know what to say, motivation, …’

Now lets go to another example:

Kim McFarland came up with a neat elicitation strategy she calls "unaffirmations".

It goes like this:

You (if you’re doing self change), or the person you’re working with says to themselves an affirmation and then shuts up and notices if there are feelings or emotions that debunks this affirmation.

ie: ‘I’m great’, ‘I’m good with girls’, ‘I’m great at sex’, ‘I’m perfect’ ‘I’m comfortable in the tube’ ‘I’m good at speaking’ …

Then shut up and notice what happens.

OK.. got it?

A great violin player used this ‘unaffirmation’ thingy the other day:

"I like myself:" What’s there to like? You’re a loser. That makes me feel:sad, lonely, ashamed.

Looks good hé, – something you can work with right?

Well here’s how you could do much better, faster and easier.

The guy comes up with 3 things, and in the meanwhile he’s getting further away from the real issue.

Now what he didn’t do here is to shut up… and notice what’s happening in his body.

He doesn’t notice what’s happening in the gap between the statement and what he "thinks".

"OH there’s a gap in between where there are lots of things going on, … OHHH":?

… you know this already

thinking leads to feeling

well here’s a suggestion… how about noticing the step before…

feeling > thinking > …

… every problem strategy starts with a K-…

Really?

Every problem?

Well :-)

So for the Practioner here who’s paying attention…

1. we pointed out what to look for

2. next step is to know where and when to look for it

… you know where you’re going …

So… as Eric says … you can plan ahead… in your chess game.

Where a good chess player thinks 10 steps ahead a great chess player only thinks about the next step… but it’s gonna be the right one.

…Now it’s time to go finish my coffee.

Have fun

Bart

NLP and Changework… Time for an Upgrade? Some Suggestions

Modeling David Grodon Style

Here is link to a wonderful article on utilizing, ‘Stepping in" in the process of modeling. Let me know what you think. Hope the link works.

Modeling: Stepping in

Modeling David Grodon Style

Putting Your Goal Onto Time Line. Does It Work?

Hi :), on my TLT training I came across technique about putting your goals into future on time line.

My questions is, does this method make difference? I am curious if this technique has really impact and if so, how do you know? I read Tad James book about time line therapy but he didn’t mentioned any cases when he noticed that this technique really works and he didn’t mentioned how does he figured this technique out.

Has anyone of you some reference on source where I can find more about it or can anybody share personal experience with this technique?

Putting Your Goal Onto Time Line. Does It Work?

Hello

Hi everyone,

I only found you the other day…………I’d done a Google search for Autism & NLP and a link to this forum was the first thing that came up!

I’m very new to the wonderful world of NLP.

My interest in it began earlier this year when someone recommended I read Richard Bandler’s Guide to Trance-formation……..so I did and it changed my life and I’ve been reading books on NLP ever since.

I’m sure I’ll learn a lot from this forum and maybe contribute someday,

best wishes

Sue

Hello

Meta Model Changework

After attending the Frank Pucelik event this week, it got me thinking about the good old Meta Model as a changework tool.

When I first started out doing changework, I used the meta model extensively… with the result of pissing off a lot of clients and not getting much by way of quality change. So my meta model use got less and less and now I rarely use it at all (doing most of the work with Milton and Clean Language).

Now I’m not saying that it isn’t a great tool – in other communication contexts I have found it most useful, but for Changework, I never really could get it to ‘sing’.

So I’m listening to Frank Pucelik talking about the development and testing of the meta-model, and talking about getting rapid change with that alone. And I don’t doubt that this is the case AND I would love to see that.

Now, here’s the thing… maybe I just never learned how to do it right (the people who trained me were business skills trainers), but someone can do it, right? Well, so I thought, so I searched for a video of someone doing using the Meta Model for changework.

And I haven’t found one yet!

Has anyone here seen a demonstration of effective changework through meta model exploration?

I would love to see it! I would love to know how to make this tool really work in a changework context!

All feedback welcome!

All the very best

James

Meta Model Changework